ZOMGS! Hot Weather City Interview Panic!!

EVEN though she is leaving for a month in London in lo a matter of hours, PeaceBang cannot ignore this desperate plea for help!! Read on!

PeaceBang – I need your help. Even the spirit of Tim Gunn I try to carry with me at all times isn’t helping me to figure this one out.

I have an interview in a big city on Friday. The church is flying me in and then having me take public transport to the church- which is a 5-10 minute walk from the end of the public transport line. They said this will be a good chance for me to experience city life and test the accessibility (or maybe it’s their test to see if I’m a nitwit).

So, here’s the question: I have to walk some minutes to get to the church, porting my luggage, while it’s HOT HOT HOT. What do I wear that’s interview appropriate and can also make the walk without leaving me soaked in sweat? I think I can manage a quick change of shoes once I step into the church, but I doubt I’ll have an opportunity to pull a Clark Kent bathroom switcheroo on the whole outfit.

Question #2: The church has graciously invited me to stay 2 nights with a family of the church who lives in the immediate neighborhood. Bringing a gift seems appropriate, but I am clueless. What would be an appropriate token to thank them for their hospitality?

Thanks for any advice you offer!

SWEETHEART, THIS IS WHY GOD MADE TAXI CABS.
Seriously. Do you really think it’s a good idea, or fair to yourself, to drag a suitcase out of an airport and then try to figure out the subway system, then drag yourself and your bags onto a subway — which is a subterranean Hell hole in the summer — unless it’s Washington, DC in which case it’s a well air-conditioned subterranean Hell Hole — and then UP to the street perspiring all over yourself and then WALK TO THE CHURCH IN YOUR NICE INTERVIEW DUDS AND SHOES?

Picture this instead: You get off the plane and freshen up in the bathroom, spritzing your face with rosewater and patting it dry. Brush your hair, apply fresh lippy. Purchase an icy cold bottle of water, take the escalator downstairs and step into a cab. Give them the address of the church. Pay whatever the nice man tells you to and consider it the best money you’ve spent in a long time. Tip well.

Get out of the cab, straighten your blazer, dab at your face with a hankie and walk into the interview all smiles, poise and professional polish. Memorize this handy phrase, “The subway system here looks great and very easy to figure out. But given that I wanted to be at my best for our time together I decided to invest in a cab ride here. I knew that with my nerves and the heat I could wind up stumbling in here looking a bit scary and I figured I didn’t want to subject you to that!” (hearty laughter, hand shakes all ’round)

Do you think any of the people on the search committee would actually take public transportation with their luggage to an important, potentially life-changing interview? Of course they wouldn’t. I think they’re being rude and inhospitable and you should not hesitate to tell the truth of how you got there. If they want you to be on your best game right away upon your arrival they should jolly well send someone to fetch you at the airport. And so right away, dear heart, I wonder about the church’s spirit of generosity and fairness. A first meet-and-greet is no time to “experience city life.” That’s pure bull pucks and I’d be the first to say so to whoever came up with that sad excuse to leave you on your own to find your way to them.

“By all means! Take a plane and a subway and then walk in the blazing sun with your suitcase to meet with us! Welcome to Our Lady of Heatstroke!”

PeaceBang doesn’t like to talk about her own congregation overly much but she must say that her own lay leaders wouldn’t dream of such unkindness to a visiting pastor, or to anyone. You should be greeted at the airport and transported to the church, and if not you should be reimbursed with apologies for taxi fare. Tsk, tsk. Tacky, tacky, tacky and cheap. Did they even offer to come and get you?

As to how you should dress, you should dress beautifully and as coolly as possible. I think a linen shift and light jacket might be nice for a building with no a/c – you’ll wrinkle, but wear a nice necklace and make sure your hair is bouncy and your make-up fresh and you’ll be fine. I think slingback pumps are great in the summer for a professional meeting where you want to make a great impression, but you have to dress for the context. I don’t know your look at all so you could do anything from ballerina flats to platform sandals. Just, you know, don’t do Birkenstocks or sneakers.

The frumpiest summer female clergy outfit is always the shapeless long sleeveless dress — you know the one I mean, with the floral print or in the ugly pastel? And the hideous A-line seaming? and the sad sack floppy jacket/linen shirt. Then you add the drabimosso hair, the wan complexion with invisible lashes and eyebrows (extra points for obvious sun damage) and flesh-colored White Lady Sandals by Clarks worn on feet in desperate need of a pedicure and voila, “Please Don’t Notice Me, I Don’t Matter and Neither Does Anything I Say.”

As to the hostess gift, it depends. Do you want to shop before you arrive or will you have some time to pick up something while you’re there? I love to get a brightly colored little colander and pack a few pints of berries into it with a card. Flowers and a bottle of interesting wine or sparkling water is also lovely. If there’s a farmer’s market in the city you can pick up bunches of herbs and put them in brightly colored coffee mugs. Something bright and pretty.

Follow up with us, okay, darling? As you can tell, Auntie PeaceBang is a little peeved on your behalf. I don’t mean to be a princess but honestly, talk about setting someone up to not do their best from the very start!
Also, woman, listen to yourself. If you truly suspect that this search committee questions your ability to navigate basic public transportation then you should question their ability to respect the intelligence of any religious leader. “Experience city life” my big butt. Remember that this is a two-way street. Not only do they have to be impressed by you, you have to be impressed by them.

48 Replies to “ZOMGS! Hot Weather City Interview Panic!!”

  1. This was my reaction as well – why are they not picking you up at the airport?!

    Good luck!

  2. Me too. My reaction is: DON’T TAKE THE JOB!

    Seriously? I mean, SERIOUSLY?

    And I’m not so sure about the “graciously invited you to stay with a family” bullcrap either.

    Take a cab, go to the interview, but let someone else be their doormat.

  3. Have to chime in here and agree with PB and the previous comments. They should pick you up AND they should put you up in a hotel. It’s ridiculous for them to expect you to be “on” the entire time you are traveling – and you’ll have to be on while staying in someone’s home.

  4. Echoing all of the above — the not picking you up at the airport (or if everyone is unavailable, telling you to give them the cab receipt for reimbursement) is cheapskate nonsense. The “graciously invited me to stay 2 nights with a family” is just further proof. You need to be put up at a comfortable nice hotel where when you need to be off/relaxing/preparing, you don’t have to be worrying about impressions and making nice with the friends of the interviewer. This big-city church surely has some nice hotels they know of.

    Seriously consider saying “no” to the job, and telling them why — if they’re this cheap in the interviewing you’re going to be treated cheaply working for them, too.

  5. I knocked points off for search committees who didn’t have a nice gift basket waiting for me at the front desk of the hotel.

  6. I agree with the above commenters. It is unusual for a congregation not to show basic hospitality to a potential candidate for their position. Perhaps this congregation is particularly clueless–this may be their first interview, they may not have been well assisted in their process, they may be in huge grief over the departure of their former pastor or be in horror that the budget they have is inadequate to their needs. However, lacking the ordinary courtesy of transportation direct to their location is a BIG yellow flag to me. There should be plenty of time elsewhere in the schedule for you to get the lay of the land, figure out the neighborhood, etc. There’s no need to do it schlepping your luggage. In terms of first impressions, I don’t think they have made a very good one!

  7. I see I’m late to the chiming-in party, but I just HAD to register my total agreement with PB’s read of this situation! The “why don’t you just figure out public transportation” thing is bad enough, but it’s actually the staying at a layperson’s home instead of a hotel thing that really worries me. Because that basically means that you’ll be interviewing for 48 hours straight, which is completely inhospitable and unfair. I can’t help but wonder what other inconveniences and disrespectful arrangements their settled pastor will be expected to put up with. Giant red flags for me all around!

  8. These are the kind of folks who will make free use of the extra key to the rectory and walk in while you’re in your skivvies. Run! Run now!

    If they really are just clueless and you’d like the job, I’d suggest laying down some boundaries right up front.

  9. Perhaps it’s just me and my history but I hear a hint of a “I wonder if she can take city life?” question/accusation in there.

  10. This is shocking. Speaking as someone who served on a search committee in the recent past, I can tell you that we did everything but cartwheels to make sure our candidates felt welcomed and taken care of and as comfortable as possible. No one picking you up at the airport, and no hotel? Inexcusable. Congregants on search committees should be people at the church with a clue. If this is the best of their best, it’s a pretty sad representation of the congregation.

  11. If they care so little for your well-being = this does not bode well for the job. Used and abused is how it will end up. You are worth more than this. Call them and tell them you need a hotel and will be taking a cab if no one can pick you up. If they say no – their loss.

  12. I LOVE all of you!!! YES YES DOUBLE YES! And YES to the “home hospitality” thing, too. I didn’t want to say anything about that because I thought it might be a matter of finances but now that I think about it, too bad. Part of being able to afford a minister is to be able to afford a fair and hospitable candidating process.

    Bravi, tutti!

  13. As a pastors wife who has seen my share of financially struggling congregations – run the other way. Something is very wrong here. Not paying for a cab and not putting you up in a hotel screams financial problems.

  14. I agree with all of the above, and I wanted to say that the “funky colander with berries” sounds like the best housewarming present ever and I’m totally stealing that.

  15. The fact that no one is picking you up at the airport, giving you some kind of tour of the city and putting you up in the best hotel that they can afford shows that they are not interested in you as a candidate.

    You are worth more than they are offering. Please, for the sake of your own self-esteem, withdraw yourself from consideration when the weekend is over.

  16. I agree with all the above red-flaggers. Ohmiholygawd. Run, run, run, run, run, run, run away!

    You will show great poise by showing up ala Peacebang and showing them “how it’s done”, i.e., fresh, cool, professional.

    But yes, everyone should be doing backflips to make you feel welcomed. I wish I had learned earlier that the churches that want to treat their clergy well will do everything in their power to impress YOU too. Case in point- I’m madly in love with my current parish, and they turned BACKFLIPS for me- car, guesthouse with stocked fridge, full tour of the town, set up networking interviews for my spouse, coffeeshop tours. COFFEESHOP TOUR! They knocked my socks off as well.

  17. I agree with everything that everyone has said about the transport thing. But I’d like to give another perspective on the “stay with a family thing” because in 2 weekends time I’m hosting a candidate (and his family) for an informal “get to know eachother” weekend. Having already hosted them last month for the same reason.

    I think the key here is the culture of the denomination and location. Here, putting a candidte in a hotel would feel cold and impersonal (and its also true, would strain our finances – and if thats the real reason, better know about it up front and decide if you can deal with it).

    So he’s staying with us (dh is the church secretary, so its kind of our role). Another member of the search committee is providing guided tour of the area. And when he already came last month my oldest and I looked after their kids so that he and his wife could talk to the search committee, and hosted a dinner afterwards for everyone. (But again we are a small – 80 members – informal congregation. A pastor who can’t deal with that is the wrong person for us.)

    So I think that that aspect may be OK – if all concerned are comfortable.

    As hostess, I wouldn’t expect a gift. But flowers or a nice bottle of wine never go amiss.

    And as part of the church leadership, the idea that he is interviewing us every bit as much as we are interviewing him is definately at the forefront of my mind.

  18. I’d echo all of the above.
    You are being set up to fail, and then they will be able to say something along the lines of “Women can’t hack this demanding job – she couldn’t even cope with the interview.”

    Walk away from it, honey.

  19. I would echo everyone else here – I speak as a former search committee member AND someone who is an avid public transportation user: no. Just no. I realize that churches can’t always afford professional staff to make arrangements, but someone could have the sensitivity to understand this situation from the perspective of the candidate.

    The not meeting you at the airport is bull. (I tried to find a better word, but really, it’s total nonsense.) I was a member of a mission companionship committee in an urban area where driving/parking at the airport was a challenge and we didn’t have a very big budget. But we worked things out: one of us would take that wonderful public transit to the airport, meet the visitor in the terminal, and help with luggage. Someone else would arrive at curbside with a car, to avoid having to park in the airport garage. Now that cell phones are ubiquitous, this would be easier to coordinate.

    At the very least, someone could meet you at the airport and ride with you in a taxi, making conversation and pointing out places of interest. I’ve also done that when I felt I couldn’t handle driving in and out of our city’s airport. If the public transportation is so great, why isn’t someone from the parish using it to meet you?

  20. It sounds to me like this search committee has forgotten that YOU are interviewing them just as they are interviewing you. In an interview situation, everyone puts their best foot forward. If this is their best foot, I would proceed with caution.

    I think to put you in a situation that neither you nor Tim Gunn can figure out is a huge red flag. Tim Gunn is a superhero.

    While there may be extenuating circumstances, I would want answers to the concerns raised by HRH Peacebang and her minions.

  21. Ditto Ditto Ditto–this is not hospitality, it’s a test to see if you’ll put up with their BS. Please…unless they are the Best! Church! Ever! when you get there, run away as fast as you can with your luggage right behind. They will not treat you well. I also live in a large urban area with excellent public transportation, and committee members appeared at the airport for every one of my 4 or 5 weekend visits here before moving, including just when I popped in to look at houses or when I had to come for a Presbytery meeting. Is driving to and from the airport, parking or circling, and whatnot, annoying for people–especially people who have jobs? Yes. But they did it anyway, and 5 years later we’re still going strong together. It’s worth every penny.

  22. I’m puzzled at the idea that this interview is scheduled for right after the plane arrives. What about delays? Summer thunderstorms in South Carolina [or wherever] that tie up planes all up and down the East Coast [ditto]? Jeez Louise, when my sister got married she flew the rabbi down the day before and due to storms he STILL almost didn’t make it in time.

  23. Wow – great advice has already been given. In fact, I’m going to file this away for future reference. I’m happy where I am right now but do know it’s not forever… likely in a few years I’ll be looking for the a new parish. I’ll keep these hints in mind 🙂

    As for staying at someone’s home – I could never do it. As a “raging introvert” I desparately need time away from others to regroup and re-energize my spirits. Which is why I despise billeting so much. Very nice of the family to offer and it may be a finance thing… but it would not work for me. However, you know yourself best and what works for your energy and spirit.

    I also wonder about the timing of the interview. Obviously set by people who don’t fly often – I always find there’s a delay – especially if they want you to use public transit to get there.

  24. If their big city is NYC or somewhere similar (great transit, $500/month to park, sky-high insurance), it’s conceivable that no one on the search committee even owns a car. But that is no excuse. Even if the city is not a car-owning culture, they should have arranged for a car service to wait for you. That is how it’s done. Just in case, be prepared for a long line for taxis — wear comfortable shoes and removable layers. Shame on them for putting you in this position.

  25. Ditto, ditto, ditto. You need safe space and down time. You need a hotel (or separate guest space–I stayed in a cottage owned by a parishioner when I interviewed in a resort area). You need to arrive safely and unfrazzled. You need a wonderful tour selling you on the merits of the area as well as the parish. You need to be treated with respect.

    One of the vows in the Baptismal Covenant of my denomination is to respect the dignity of every human person. If I were treated that way by a search committee I would call them on it–gently, respectfully (let’s model the behavior we want), but also CLEARLY.

    Blessings, dear. You’ll be in my prayers. You deserve a wonderful place to flourish as the gift you are called to be. This parish most likely isn’t it, but you will find it, and when you do they and you will be a blessing to each other.

  26. I echo everyone else’s concern about making you walk and not staying in a hotel.

    It sounds like hazing. Not a job interview. Like, let’s haze the new young minister to see if she can be in our fraternity.

    Maybe that’s harsh, but I doubt it.

  27. What *everyone* else said.

    Are you reading this, sister of ours? I’m on the edge of my seat for a report back. What happened? Please share with us, not so that we can feel smug about our advice but rather so we can applaud you for knowing your own worth.

  28. Oh goodness me! I don’t often respond, but having recently been through the interviewing process myself, I got to see the full gamut of extremes when it came to the search committees. One committee was 2 hours late for an interview (on the phone, but still…) and another committee put me before their presbytery’s committee on ministry without warning me beforehand (it did not go well). I’ve had search committee members pat me on the head and tell me how “cute” I am (I’m a small, young female). I’ve had committee members ask me within 5 minutes of meeting them when I plan to have a baby. So to hear about a committee that can’t even arrange to bring a candidate from the airport to the church, regardless of the extenuating circumstances, is so tremendously inhospitable.

    The church I ended up with put me and my husband up in a beautiful hotel several times, picked me up from the airport and toured the city, sponsored meals in homes and at restaurants, and left fresh flowers in our hotel room. I was blown away by their generosity and their hospitality. I felt cared for and appreciated, not because they treated me to nice things, but because they thought through the details.

    At the end of the day, there are so many factors that play a part in deciding if a church is the right one, but little gestures of hospitality speak VOLUMES about the culture of the church and the character of the people there.

  29. As a minister’s spouse who has tagged along on candidating weeks, I never encountered anything like this. Perhaps the search committee is resentful about the process or salary and wants to discourage candidates or let them know they are lucky to be getting a paid job. Even the most low-budget church picked us up at the airport, lent us a parishioner’s car, and put us up at the comfy home of a church member who was out of town. (This reminds me of a tip, though: Be sure you know the exact salary range.)

  30. Gosh. I really hope we hear back how it went for this candidate. Really. This is a great case study for all of us. THANKS PB for providing such a thought-provoking forum.

  31. yep to all of it. And I’d call and say that, actually, I’ll be needing to stay in a hotel, given the stress of travel and interviewing.

  32. Before I even saw the comments, I thought WHAT KIND OF HALF-ASSED HOSPITALITY is that to make you take a bus and walk to an interview. Not only should you NOT take the job, you should turn down the interview, but if it’s a free trip and you want to check out the city, go for it. Get a cab and ask to be reimbursed.

  33. As the survivor of multitudes of interviews, none with anywhere near this kind of insensitivity, I have only one thing to say:

    CALL THEM AND TELL THEM YOU’VE BEEN PRAYING ABOUT THIS, AND IT’S JUST IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO COME. And write the governing body of the denomination to tell them exactly what they asked of you.

  34. Don’t go to this interview. You might say to yourself that maybe nothing is up or that you really need a job or that you can help a hurting congregation…. but as one who thought she “really needed the job” and could turn things around let me tell you, I did NOT need the job I just left after 4 years of beating my head against the wall.

    I, too, read this thinking, “My God, what a way to treat the person who will potentially provide care for your souls!”

    Yes, I agree with Sarah G. (hmmm, think I know her) and am telling you not to waste your time or what will end up being some of your money on this interview.

    Please, please let us know how things turn out.

  35. I just went through the call process myself and I agree with what has been said, with a big caveats: Context is key!

    My call committee put me up with a committee member, which I was initially reluctant to accept. But it was a very, very small (tiny), very rural (remote) town and we were unsure of the motel availiblity. When telling us about the lodging arrangements, the committee made sure to let us know that we would have the whole finished basement (with seperate bath) to ourselves. AND the committee member lived alone in this beautiful large house. We’re really glad we accepted the invitation to stay with her – having now FINALLY found the motel in town, we are so glad the congregation thought enough of us to not have us stay there!!

    We were give the option of several airports, some closer and some further away. The call chairperson suggested we fly into the one where the synod office was and rent a car and drive (5 hours) to them, which we agreed to do. We appreciated the chance to check out the area, meet synod staff, and have our own transportation while there.

    We were in conversation with the call committee during the planning process for the visit and if there was anything we thought wouldn’t work, we didn’t hesitate to talk to them about it. If you can’t state your needs and talk honestly to the committee now, you will never be able to. And that doesn’t bode well for your ministy.

    As far as a hostess gift goes, is there something that your state or town is known for (and will travel well)? I took a small basket with some local jams and homemade soaps and such. It was a hit!

  36. How are you going to return to the airport? The same way?

    Oh, take the #9 to 9th street and change to the subway there?

    That said, if someone was meeting you at the airport and riding the public transit with you, and that person was exceptionally funny – it might be worth it.

    Really, really tacky.

  37. I agree with what everyone else has offered. I serve in a small social justice/holiness denomination. We tend to be located in low income areas and to operate on a shoestring. We have a VERY strong ethic of not spending unneccessary money. But the process of the call still has unavoidable costs. To skimp on these tells you something about your congregation. How are these people going to react to your invoices to things like conferences, books, retreats or coffee with parishoners. Is that the kind of atmosphere you want to serve in?

    You should be greeted at the airport by a friendly and helpful person. That person should help you find your way to your NEUTRAL personal space with your belongings. (I’ll give a little bit of lea-way here, but I give STRONG preference to a hotel as well.)

    If they wish for you to see the city (or try out public transport), it would be perfectly acceptable to provide you with a pass for public transport and a map and say “in our busy itinerary for the weekend, we have left this nice wide slot of 3-4 hours for your personal use, to explore the city on your own for a while, or nap, or pray and collect your thoughts.”

  38. THANK YOU for all the words of encouragement and solidarity. The great day of travel and interviewing starts tomorrow. Honestly, they have been very kind in other ways, but the whole take the subway and walk – just as our former candidates have done and enjoyed! – throws me off.

    It is not a pastoral position. It is a ministry leadership position that could be ordainable. But – I wonder if that could be the difference? (Or, am I making excuses for them?)

    I WILL fill you all in after the fact- I’ll be in the city until flying home on Sunday. Blessings!

  39. If you really intend to withdraw from the process immediately after the weekend regardless of what transpires, then don’t go. Cancel it and save everyone time and money. If you are still considering the position despite the comments above, you might consider sharing with the committee at some opportune time your reaction to the “take the subway” arrangment (or lack of arrangement.) The fact that this is not a pastoral position does not make a difference — it is still a ministry leadership position and all of the comments above still apply. God’s best to you and to this congregation.

  40. Joie, if I don’t know you I’d like to! How can we hook up. I’m writing a book on heart-breaking parish ministry, among other things.

  41. Sara G. – As far as I am concerned, it’s fine for PB to release my e-mail to your e-mail but I don’t want to publish my e-mail for all to see. If you don’t know me by my first name, my thought is that you are not the Sarah G. I am thinking but that’s okay. Totally interested in the book.

  42. I second, third, and fourth most of what is said above. Hear, hear, to everything, concerning how the committee is handling the transportation.

    However, in searching for my first call I discovered too late that it was an equally bad sign that not once during my first interview weekend was I invited to any committee member’s home. I even had to ASK to see the village and the church as we were zipping down the highway past it on the way to the neutral pulpit site. Everything took place at the nearby presbytery camp or in a restaurant in the county seat. It felt off, but I took the position anyway based on recommendations from my home presbytery. Turned out the community as a whole was very closed, insular, and inhospitable, where people who’d moved there 23 years before were still considered outsiders and newcomers. I did my best in integrate myself but only lasted two years.

    In contrast, I interviewed with another parish two weeks after I first talked to the folks in Insolationville, was put up at the search committee head’s home, and enjoyed it a great deal. Too bad I had to turn them down for other reasons, because spending time with those folks showed me we communicated well and would’ve gotten along fine.

    Ditto, don’t assume that if they bend over backwards they’ll necessarily be warm and accepting people. Balance that by finding out how they’ve treated their former pastors once they’re installed. And keep your eyes open to who the power brokers on the search committee are. I had one parish where the pulpit committee head/clerk of session turned out to be Lord of the Manor in that church. Every time I did anything that differed with how he thought it should be done, he’d throw up to me how generously they’d treated me during the interview process and claim that now I’d ungratefully “betrayed them.” (Think of the sociopath suitor who woos you with lavish gifts then beats you once the knot is tied. Do not want.)

    All this said, I hope the original letter writer is able to verbalize to the committee her misgivings about their arrangements. That is 100% essential. If you can’t talk straight when them before, how can you afterwards?

  43. Going for my first interview soon and the same thing has happened to me. “Find your way there and we’ll reimburse you.” I wonder if we’re interviewing at the same church??? All other sources indicate that they are incredibly hospitable, so here’s hoping it’s just a mistake on their part…

  44. Well, “similar circumstances,” I doubt it was the same church because they never offered any kind of reimbursement! It was raining when I landed, so it seemed very natural to just take a cab from the airport to the church. When they asked if I’d had trouble getting there I said, “No. I took a cab.” And they all acted like that was a fine choice and we didn’t have to talk about it again.

    Staying with a family ended up being awesome! I adore the couple that I stayed with and had a fabulous time visiting with them and hearing their enthusiasm for the church. The visit-arranger told this family to drop me at the public transport hub to get back to the airport, to which the family said there was no way they were going to do that! Ha ha!

    So, I think the take away is that the visit-arranger is not the most hospitable person (even though just about the first thing he said to me was how hospitable the church considers itself to be and he hoped I would experience that in mass). However, the rest of the church made up for that. I had great visits with the people and was invited to one of the committee member’s home for dinner one night. It was poor planning arrangements, but once I was there, I fell in love with the people of the church and the position.

    Now, I’m in negotiation about the terms and contract and waiting for God’s hand. Thank you all for your support, advice, and humor!

  45. So glad there are hospitable families in the parish. I am continually amazed and how so many parishes THINK they are warm and friendly. Ha! But inevitably, there are warm, thoughtful people in every parish. Sometimes you just have to dig a little deeper to find them.

  46. Yay, heatwave! May God’s hands guide you to a sweet next step, and to joy.

    What interests me is how quickly many of us (including ME) jumped to dire admonishments. That tells me that yes, we know our worth, and that we also bear bruises from times when our worth wasn’t recognized. I love this little online community, my sisters, because of the strength and wit I find here. May we also continue to offer one another validation and healing.

    Apologies if this I’m creating too much of a “Kumbaya moment”… Like Peacebang, I’m spending my week with colleagues and I’m feelin’ the LOVE!

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