She’s Presenting the Offering

My very dear and amazing friend is being ordained this weekend. She is youngish (40) and very vegan hip. she introduced me to you and is the reason I am now in seminary. I have two questions: I am giving the offertory speech during her ordination ceremony and since I am not quite a candidate I cannot robe. So, shall I wear a suit? Can I get away with nice slacks and a conservative blouse (with heels)?

Second, I really want to get her a meaningful gift and just have no inspiration or ideas. Any thoughts?

Many thanks.

Dear Seminarian Pigeon,

Congratulations on this great honor and responsibility!
First of all, you are not “giving the offertory speech,” you are announcing the offering. The offertory refers to the music that is played while the offering is taken up. I correct you on this small detail because I have too often seen the offering announced with a speech, and it was both liturgically inappropriate and boring, so I am trying to spare future generations similar pain. Do make a point of understanding the liturgical function and importance of taking up an offering during the ordination service and compose your words accordingly. The occasion is extremely formal, and so should your words and appearance be.

You should indeed wear a suit, and that means a blazer over that nice blouse. It also means that your hair and make-up are as elegant and formal as they get, and that you wear dressy shoes and that you — in the way back of your mind — remember that this is an occasion that brings together many clergy people from your denomination, some of whom you may want to have mentor you as you work toward your M.Div. and eventual ordination. Show your very best self and work that reception, honey.

As for a gift for your friend, if she’s hip and vegan, perhaps you could get a half dozen friends to go in on a fabulous vegan bag by Matt & Nat?

Lean Gal

We got ourselves a lanky professor here! Read on, pardners!

I do not serve in an ordained capacity – I teach undergrad religion courses at a denominational liberal arts college while I am completing my dissertation at [X] Divinity – but I do consider the vocation of such teaching to be an important reflection of both the church which as called me and the God whom we serve. So, I really appreciate the advice on your blog.

I have a question about finding
age-approriate, professional-looking clothing in small (but NOT petite) sizes on a grad-student/adjunct professor salary. I am not tall, but I guess taller than average at 5’6″, and I can sometimes hold up a size 4. But sometimes not. Clothing manufacturers seem to assume that to be my size means to be either pre-pubescent or geriatric. I rarely have the liberty of being particular about the style of clothes – I struggle to just find something that will stay on.

I have learned that skirts work better than pants. But I’d love suggestions on places that sell nice clothes in small sizes at regular lengths.

Thanks for all you do. You are not only helpful but an absolute delight to read.

Well, thanks, doll. You’re a delight to write for.

Here’s what I said to her,

Hi D,
Hey, first of all, did you check the petite section archives on the blog? I know you’re not a petite gal in height, but there might be some good conversations there that address your fitting challenges.

The trick, which I assume you have figured out already, is to know which manufacturers cut clothes really slim. Top Shop in the UK is one store but you’re in the U.S. so that’s not very helpful. Have you tried H&M? They seem to cut clothes for slim figures. Let me post this on the blog and see what the readers come up with. What you want is body-conscious designers at a good retail rate that you can find at TJ Maxx or Filene’s (or whatever discount stores you have in XcityX) so you can go in and not waste time trying on garments that are cut more generously. You can zip through the racks and go, “Ah, yes, Calvin Klein cuts things really close to the bod, let me yank this sucker and try it on.”

Fabrics and material are super important for you, too. Look for a bit of spandex in everything you wear so that garments don’t go all floppy. Belts are also great for super slim gals; look into a kind of heavy cowboy-ish belt to wear with pants and skirts, they look amazing on really lanky bods.

Work toward a long, lean look. The lean, you already got. The long means that you don’t chop your body up with heavy tweedy blazers or chunky sweaters. Go for long, lean and elegant but not boring. Make sure you’ve got some volume in your hair. Wear it up and messy if that’s possible. And girl, send me a photo!!

Skirts are indeed a good idea, and I would think you could totally rock out the maxi skirt look. The trick is to find simple clothes that fit well on your willowy frame and ground them with heftier pieces like belts, boots and bold jewelry.

Let me know if this helps. Smooches, Vicki

So what do you say, extra slimmy pigeons? Who makes the best clothes for your figure?

Talbot’s Preaching Dress

Oh, my. PeaceBang’s stage-motherish heart beats with joy when one of her suggestions works so well for her pigeons. Awhile ago I got a letter from Courtney asking for ideas for a summer preaching dress. I went shopping online and found something from Talbots that I thought was a classic enough shape and had enough coverage to allow a lady preacher in killer heat to preside without fainting dead away. It’s called the Flutter-Sleeve Knit Dress and if I wasn’t shaped like a three-tiered meatball I would own one in every color.

Here is Courtney in the dress I chose, looking just lovely and obviously having survived a day at church. First, her letter. She writes,

Dear PeaceBang,

Thank you so much for the suggestion of the Talbot’s dress. I wanted to send you a picture to thank you! Please excuse the lack of makeup – I just got home from morning worship and after the morning’s craziness (and sweat, and hugs, and handshakes), I’m afraid I look like I have none on. I had some great poppy lipstick on this morning, but it is no longer present!

It is beautiful, and was perfect for my needs. I’ve worn it two Sundays now, and though our sanctuary is not air conditioned and it is currently over 90, it is keeping me very, very cool. It covers everything, is high enough in the neckline and far enough below my knees that I don’t have to pay any extra attention to how I sit, and it looks great with a stole. It moves and breathes and is super comfortable. I’d highly recommend it to anyone.

I wear a thin belt to hook my lapel microphone to, which is the only thing that mars the pretty line of this dress, but it’s necessary until I come up with a better solution.

The only quibble I have with the dress is that’s very revealing. I’m smallish, so I can get away with it, but I still have to wear control top pantyhose to eliminate bumps. I had a bow on the front of one pair of undies that I had to cut off, because it actually showed because the dress’s fabric is so unforgiving.

This will be my summer preaching dress for a long time to come. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Here’s our girl looking swell:


By the way, I should think one could wear this to a summer wedding. Add a big flower in the hair for the reception and change out the shoes for a pair of strappy sandals. Bam. You’re good to go.

ZOMGS! Hot Weather City Interview Panic!!

EVEN though she is leaving for a month in London in lo a matter of hours, PeaceBang cannot ignore this desperate plea for help!! Read on!

PeaceBang – I need your help. Even the spirit of Tim Gunn I try to carry with me at all times isn’t helping me to figure this one out.

I have an interview in a big city on Friday. The church is flying me in and then having me take public transport to the church- which is a 5-10 minute walk from the end of the public transport line. They said this will be a good chance for me to experience city life and test the accessibility (or maybe it’s their test to see if I’m a nitwit).

So, here’s the question: I have to walk some minutes to get to the church, porting my luggage, while it’s HOT HOT HOT. What do I wear that’s interview appropriate and can also make the walk without leaving me soaked in sweat? I think I can manage a quick change of shoes once I step into the church, but I doubt I’ll have an opportunity to pull a Clark Kent bathroom switcheroo on the whole outfit.

Question #2: The church has graciously invited me to stay 2 nights with a family of the church who lives in the immediate neighborhood. Bringing a gift seems appropriate, but I am clueless. What would be an appropriate token to thank them for their hospitality?

Thanks for any advice you offer!

SWEETHEART, THIS IS WHY GOD MADE TAXI CABS.
Seriously. Do you really think it’s a good idea, or fair to yourself, to drag a suitcase out of an airport and then try to figure out the subway system, then drag yourself and your bags onto a subway — which is a subterranean Hell hole in the summer — unless it’s Washington, DC in which case it’s a well air-conditioned subterranean Hell Hole — and then UP to the street perspiring all over yourself and then WALK TO THE CHURCH IN YOUR NICE INTERVIEW DUDS AND SHOES?

Picture this instead: You get off the plane and freshen up in the bathroom, spritzing your face with rosewater and patting it dry. Brush your hair, apply fresh lippy. Purchase an icy cold bottle of water, take the escalator downstairs and step into a cab. Give them the address of the church. Pay whatever the nice man tells you to and consider it the best money you’ve spent in a long time. Tip well.

Get out of the cab, straighten your blazer, dab at your face with a hankie and walk into the interview all smiles, poise and professional polish. Memorize this handy phrase, “The subway system here looks great and very easy to figure out. But given that I wanted to be at my best for our time together I decided to invest in a cab ride here. I knew that with my nerves and the heat I could wind up stumbling in here looking a bit scary and I figured I didn’t want to subject you to that!” (hearty laughter, hand shakes all ’round)

Do you think any of the people on the search committee would actually take public transportation with their luggage to an important, potentially life-changing interview? Of course they wouldn’t. I think they’re being rude and inhospitable and you should not hesitate to tell the truth of how you got there. If they want you to be on your best game right away upon your arrival they should jolly well send someone to fetch you at the airport. And so right away, dear heart, I wonder about the church’s spirit of generosity and fairness. A first meet-and-greet is no time to “experience city life.” That’s pure bull pucks and I’d be the first to say so to whoever came up with that sad excuse to leave you on your own to find your way to them.

“By all means! Take a plane and a subway and then walk in the blazing sun with your suitcase to meet with us! Welcome to Our Lady of Heatstroke!”

PeaceBang doesn’t like to talk about her own congregation overly much but she must say that her own lay leaders wouldn’t dream of such unkindness to a visiting pastor, or to anyone. You should be greeted at the airport and transported to the church, and if not you should be reimbursed with apologies for taxi fare. Tsk, tsk. Tacky, tacky, tacky and cheap. Did they even offer to come and get you?

As to how you should dress, you should dress beautifully and as coolly as possible. I think a linen shift and light jacket might be nice for a building with no a/c – you’ll wrinkle, but wear a nice necklace and make sure your hair is bouncy and your make-up fresh and you’ll be fine. I think slingback pumps are great in the summer for a professional meeting where you want to make a great impression, but you have to dress for the context. I don’t know your look at all so you could do anything from ballerina flats to platform sandals. Just, you know, don’t do Birkenstocks or sneakers.

The frumpiest summer female clergy outfit is always the shapeless long sleeveless dress — you know the one I mean, with the floral print or in the ugly pastel? And the hideous A-line seaming? and the sad sack floppy jacket/linen shirt. Then you add the drabimosso hair, the wan complexion with invisible lashes and eyebrows (extra points for obvious sun damage) and flesh-colored White Lady Sandals by Clarks worn on feet in desperate need of a pedicure and voila, “Please Don’t Notice Me, I Don’t Matter and Neither Does Anything I Say.”

As to the hostess gift, it depends. Do you want to shop before you arrive or will you have some time to pick up something while you’re there? I love to get a brightly colored little colander and pack a few pints of berries into it with a card. Flowers and a bottle of interesting wine or sparkling water is also lovely. If there’s a farmer’s market in the city you can pick up bunches of herbs and put them in brightly colored coffee mugs. Something bright and pretty.

Follow up with us, okay, darling? As you can tell, Auntie PeaceBang is a little peeved on your behalf. I don’t mean to be a princess but honestly, talk about setting someone up to not do their best from the very start!
Also, woman, listen to yourself. If you truly suspect that this search committee questions your ability to navigate basic public transportation then you should question their ability to respect the intelligence of any religious leader. “Experience city life” my big butt. Remember that this is a two-way street. Not only do they have to be impressed by you, you have to be impressed by them.

Summer Preaching

Ducklings,
I am working with a Midwestern minister who is preaching sans robe in an unair-conditioned sanctuary. Girlfriend is HOT, and not in a good way. I’m trying to find some examples of looks for her and am so far coming up empty handed. I will share my longer response with you tomorrow but for now, let me just say that I LOVE this selection of dresses from Ann Taylor but consider none of them preaching-appropriate. Quelle dommage!

This little surplice item from Talbot’s however, could get you through a whole summer. It’s a modest length and elegant cut and I would wear it every Sunday if I had the bod for it. There’s no reason to keep trying to be original and cute in the summer. Let it be your Sunday dress, just like in olden times.

Meanwhile, Macy’s is having quite an amazing sale on suits. Check it out. There are some really classic options for great prices here.