Comments on: Yes, Virginia, There Is Such a Thing As Nice Jeans http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/ Because you're in the public eye, and God knows you need to look good. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:47:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Sarah http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1559 Sarah Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:28:16 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1559 Ann Taylor Loft has great jeans in regular and petite sizes. I've hit them a few times while they're on sale, and their base price is less than what's been listed here so far. They look great and professional when "dressed up" with a trimly-cut corduroy blazer and crinkly silk scarf. Ann Taylor Loft has great jeans in regular and petite sizes. I’ve hit them a few times while they’re on sale, and their base price is less than what’s been listed here so far. They look great and professional when “dressed up” with a trimly-cut corduroy blazer and crinkly silk scarf.

]]> By: Miss Kitty http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1558 Miss Kitty Mon, 11 Dec 2006 23:25:25 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1558 Any suggestions as to sources for nice jeans? My Levis Superlow Bootcut are waaaay too low for official duty. I'm petite (5'2"), size 10 or 12. Any suggestions as to sources for nice jeans? My Levis Superlow Bootcut are waaaay too low for official duty. I’m petite (5′2″), size 10 or 12.

]]> By: PeaceBang http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1557 PeaceBang Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:27:45 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1557 Steve, depends on what business you're in. Lots of my friends in corporate America can wear dark, nice denim to casual meetings. Granted, they're mostly in more creative fields than the ones you've mentioned.<br/><br/>In this case, I was amazed that this seminarian apparently thought that my nice jeans and relatively dressed up outfit was less formal than, say, a pullover fleece top paired with Dockers, or a cotton t-shirt and skirt with sandals.<br/><br/>Oh god, please no chalice ties!! ;-) Steve, depends on what business you’re in. Lots of my friends in corporate America can wear dark, nice denim to casual meetings. Granted, they’re mostly in more creative fields than the ones you’ve mentioned.

In this case, I was amazed that this seminarian apparently thought that my nice jeans and relatively dressed up outfit was less formal than, say, a pullover fleece top paired with Dockers, or a cotton t-shirt and skirt with sandals.

Oh god, please no chalice ties!! ;-)

]]> By: Steve Caldwell http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1556 Steve Caldwell Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:22:58 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1556 Peacebang wrote:<br/>-snip-<br/><i>"Could it really be that this seminarian was totally out of touch with the fact that, all over the fashion world, nice jeans and other well-made, well-cut denim garments were considered entirely appropriate for casual meetings in the business world? Had she never been to New York City or any other more fashionable urban center than Boston and seen thousands of professional men and women clad in nice denim garments pair with elegant blazers or shirts, and even dressed up for evening with heels and silk or cashmere?"</i><br/><br/>PB,<br/><br/>I don't know if this is being out of touch with the fashion world or simply a person who has spent time in some corporate settings where jeans are not considered "business casual."<br/><br/>I spent 3 years of my post-Air Force career working for a consulting firm that provided information technology consulting services for the military. This company's dress code definition of "business casual" was the following:<br/><br/>** dress shirt and tie or corporate polo shirt<br/><br/>** slacks (e.g. dockers or other similar pants)<br/><br/>These business casual restrictions seem very close to the dress code that I've seen some male DREs follow.<br/><br/>Jeans were explicitly prohibited in writing for the firm that I worked for.<br/><br/>The CLF catalog has a nice chalice tie bar but I cannot find it on their web site any more.<br/><br/>We did make an informal exception at my location for these "business casual" requirements for the two aircraft instrumentation technicians in my organization who were employed by the same firm. B-52s are both uncomfortable and grimy places to work.<br/><br/>In 2006, I left contractor employment for civil service employment which apparently has a slightly more relaxed dress code (tie optional, jeans OK on occassion, etc).<br/><br/>So ... a seminary student coming to the ministry from some corporate setting might express surprise at a professional wearing jeans. Peacebang wrote:
-snip-
“Could it really be that this seminarian was totally out of touch with the fact that, all over the fashion world, nice jeans and other well-made, well-cut denim garments were considered entirely appropriate for casual meetings in the business world? Had she never been to New York City or any other more fashionable urban center than Boston and seen thousands of professional men and women clad in nice denim garments pair with elegant blazers or shirts, and even dressed up for evening with heels and silk or cashmere?”

PB,

I don’t know if this is being out of touch with the fashion world or simply a person who has spent time in some corporate settings where jeans are not considered “business casual.”

I spent 3 years of my post-Air Force career working for a consulting firm that provided information technology consulting services for the military. This company’s dress code definition of “business casual” was the following:

** dress shirt and tie or corporate polo shirt

** slacks (e.g. dockers or other similar pants)

These business casual restrictions seem very close to the dress code that I’ve seen some male DREs follow.

Jeans were explicitly prohibited in writing for the firm that I worked for.

The CLF catalog has a nice chalice tie bar but I cannot find it on their web site any more.

We did make an informal exception at my location for these “business casual” requirements for the two aircraft instrumentation technicians in my organization who were employed by the same firm. B-52s are both uncomfortable and grimy places to work.

In 2006, I left contractor employment for civil service employment which apparently has a slightly more relaxed dress code (tie optional, jeans OK on occassion, etc).

So … a seminary student coming to the ministry from some corporate setting might express surprise at a professional wearing jeans.

]]> By: D.M. http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1555 D.M. Sun, 10 Dec 2006 02:39:46 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1555 this is great! and so funny too this is great! and so funny too

]]> By: Bay Bridge Episcopal http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1554 Bay Bridge Episcopal Sat, 09 Dec 2006 19:05:02 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1554 There's a GREAT line called Not My Daughter's Jeans, specifically designed for women who have passed 23. They have a "tummy tuck" feature and guarantee that you'll wear a size smaller in their jeans than anyone else's, and I've found it to be true. They look great, are amazingly soft and work with the way real woman are constructed. They run about $140 at Nordstrom's -- http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/6002614/0~2376776~2374325~6002614?cm_ven=google&cm_cat=apparel&cm_pla=nydj&cm_ite=not%20my%20daughters%20jeans There’s a GREAT line called Not My Daughter’s Jeans, specifically designed for women who have passed 23. They have a “tummy tuck” feature and guarantee that you’ll wear a size smaller in their jeans than anyone else’s, and I’ve found it to be true. They look great, are amazingly soft and work with the way real woman are constructed. They run about $140 at Nordstrom’s — http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/6002614/0~2376776~2374325~6002614?cm_ven=google&cm_cat=apparel&cm_pla=nydj&cm_ite=not%20my%20daughters%20jeans

]]> By: LaReinaCobre http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1553 LaReinaCobre Sat, 09 Dec 2006 00:49:03 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1553 You are so right about the light blue faded, not-even-stiff jeans some women like to wear. I never saw the point of jeans that were basically just a thick cotton pant. One woman tried to tell me that the drawstring pair of pants she was wearing were jeans. Uhh, what? Maybe they were, <i>technically</i> some kind of denim does not equal jeans, otherwise denim bags and denim hats and denim scrunchies would all also be jeans. You are so right about the light blue faded, not-even-stiff jeans some women like to wear. I never saw the point of jeans that were basically just a thick cotton pant. One woman tried to tell me that the drawstring pair of pants she was wearing were jeans. Uhh, what? Maybe they were, technically some kind of denim does not equal jeans, otherwise denim bags and denim hats and denim scrunchies would all also be jeans.

]]> By: Amy - Gentlewhisper.com http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1552 Amy - Gentlewhisper.com Fri, 08 Dec 2006 22:34:02 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1552 OK See. Now I can do jeans. Thank you PeaceBang...<br/><br/>I do however wear them to church on Sunday... but never as a minister... only as a seminarian incognito sitting in the balcony. OK See. Now I can do jeans. Thank you PeaceBang…

I do however wear them to church on Sunday… but never as a minister… only as a seminarian incognito sitting in the balcony.

]]> By: PeaceBang http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1551 PeaceBang Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:40:09 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1551 Anonymous, get thee to a Lane Bryant and put yourself in the hands of a salesclerk who can direct you to dark denim boot cut or flare jeans. Get them hemmed, and you're in business.<br/><br/>PeaceBang is a meatball-shaped shorty herself, and has several nice pairs. In fact, she's due for some new, as the others get so much wear. Anonymous, get thee to a Lane Bryant and put yourself in the hands of a salesclerk who can direct you to dark denim boot cut or flare jeans. Get them hemmed, and you’re in business.

PeaceBang is a meatball-shaped shorty herself, and has several nice pairs. In fact, she’s due for some new, as the others get so much wear.

]]> By: Anonymous http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/12/08/yes-virginia-there-is-such-a-thing-as-nice-jeans/#comment-1550 Anonymous Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:33:29 +0000 http://peacebang.com/beautytipsforministers/?p=316#comment-1550 Ahhh, if only some of we more voluptuous types could find such nice-looking jeans.... Ahhh, if only some of we more voluptuous types could find such nice-looking jeans….

]]>