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	<title>Comments on: Ready-To-Wear Cultural Assimilation</title>
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	<description>Because you're in the public eye, and God knows you need to look good.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting subject. I like your approach... I will definitely be back to display a more appropiate comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting subject. I like your approach&#8230; I will definitely be back to display a more appropiate comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 23:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some further thoughts I've had since I brought this up: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We live in a multi-cultural world where the boundaries of culture and ethnicity are not hard-and-fast.  Styles of clothes flow between cultures through time and in the US get all mixed and matched.  I think it would be silly for most contemporary Americans to only dress in traditional styles associated with their ethnic heritage(s).  But it's also often silly when they (we) wear other cultures' clothes to look "exotic."&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another thought I had is connected to cultural appropriation.  Some American ethnic communities, especially some immigrant communities, preserve a distinctive way of dressing which expresses their identity.  If people of other ethinicities start appropriating their styles of clothing, it risks taking away some of the special feelings that the original wearers get from their distinctive clothes.   A piece of identity gets obscured.  I noticed this at a wedding when a friend of Indian descent wore a sari--and sitting a few pews over from her were two white women who wore saris to the event "for fun"--because it was something exotic to do.  My friend was not pleased.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another thought: There's a role for the minister  (especially a white minister) in looking approachable and welcoming to people of many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds.  I don't think dressing like a multicultural mannequin is the best way to do this, but I also don't think that wearing only Northern European clothes is the answer, either.  Perhaps the key is to wear clothes that are reflective of our selves, our ministry, and the congregations we are trying to create?  Tall order.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My oh my, clothes do communicate a lot.  Good thing PeaceBang is here helping us out with all this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some further thoughts I&#8217;ve had since I brought this up: </p>
<p>We live in a multi-cultural world where the boundaries of culture and ethnicity are not hard-and-fast.  Styles of clothes flow between cultures through time and in the US get all mixed and matched.  I think it would be silly for most contemporary Americans to only dress in traditional styles associated with their ethnic heritage(s).  But it&#8217;s also often silly when they (we) wear other cultures&#8217; clothes to look &#8220;exotic.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another thought I had is connected to cultural appropriation.  Some American ethnic communities, especially some immigrant communities, preserve a distinctive way of dressing which expresses their identity.  If people of other ethinicities start appropriating their styles of clothing, it risks taking away some of the special feelings that the original wearers get from their distinctive clothes.   A piece of identity gets obscured.  I noticed this at a wedding when a friend of Indian descent wore a sari&#8211;and sitting a few pews over from her were two white women who wore saris to the event &#8220;for fun&#8221;&#8211;because it was something exotic to do.  My friend was not pleased.</p>
<p>Another thought: There&#8217;s a role for the minister  (especially a white minister) in looking approachable and welcoming to people of many different ethnic and cultural backgrounds.  I don&#8217;t think dressing like a multicultural mannequin is the best way to do this, but I also don&#8217;t think that wearing only Northern European clothes is the answer, either.  Perhaps the key is to wear clothes that are reflective of our selves, our ministry, and the congregations we are trying to create?  Tall order.</p>
<p>My oh my, clothes do communicate a lot.  Good thing PeaceBang is here helping us out with all this.</p>
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		<title>By: St. Casserole</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>St. Casserole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 11:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you.</description>
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		<title>By: LaReinaCobre</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>LaReinaCobre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 04:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: jinnis</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>jinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 23:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, faithful reader.  I appreciate your points.  I'll have to ask my brothers to look at the tags on their family tartan kilts.  The guys look great in them with or without the need to be dressed up for a special event, such as their respective weddings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, faithful reader.  I appreciate your points.  I&#8217;ll have to ask my brothers to look at the tags on their family tartan kilts.  The guys look great in them with or without the need to be dressed up for a special event, such as their respective weddings.</p>
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		<title>By: faithful reader</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>faithful reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 23:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have spent some time in Guatemala and speak Spanish but definitely have Scandanavian coloring so I was pleased to meet up with a Guatemalan weaver who had noticed that gringas had other color preferences than are common there.  She had woven a stole in various blues and some black rather than the bright multicolors that are more common. So I have a stole with Guatemalan designs and crafting woven especially for Yanks.  Actually,  though,  most of the stoles are woven for gringos and gringas and provide a living for the women who weave and a way to continue old crafts and work with the babies nearby.  Buying them helps third world women if you buy direct or from a co-op.  So better that than a tartan made from slave labor in China!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have spent some time in Guatemala and speak Spanish but definitely have Scandanavian coloring so I was pleased to meet up with a Guatemalan weaver who had noticed that gringas had other color preferences than are common there.  She had woven a stole in various blues and some black rather than the bright multicolors that are more common. So I have a stole with Guatemalan designs and crafting woven especially for Yanks.  Actually,  though,  most of the stoles are woven for gringos and gringas and provide a living for the women who weave and a way to continue old crafts and work with the babies nearby.  Buying them helps third world women if you buy direct or from a co-op.  So better that than a tartan made from slave labor in China!</p>
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		<title>By: jinnis</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>jinnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 22:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, "smug old white guy in the kimono" image - too weird, and now it is etched on the brain.  Yick.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the fine post.  As someone who has more ties to kilts than anything resembling a kaftan, I love to look at cultural dress.  I enjoy absorbing the visual richness and wondering about how that form of dress evolved in that society.  I figure if I can't claim direct experience or at least understanding, I should not risk looking like I do.  It is all too easy to fail miserably.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I've been thinking about this with regards to stoles as well.  While the kente cloth stoles in the catalogs and on many colleagues look great, I know I am way too white girl to begin to feel comfortable in them.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I find this can translate to clerical dress, too.  Some years ago, I noticed a trend in the Guatemalan stoles - many people gave them as gifts because they are pretty and fairly inexpensive for their strong visual impact, as well as having a certain "Look at my cultural diversity" factor.  I have at least one such stole - which was a gift from another colleague - but on some gut level, I hesitate to wear it for church.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don't think any of the potential for wearable assimilation is a hard and fast rule - outside of the very important question of does an item help you look and serve your best.  Gifts should have various degrees of dispensation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, &#8220;smug old white guy in the kimono&#8221; image - too weird, and now it is etched on the brain.  Yick.</p>
<p>Thanks for the fine post.  As someone who has more ties to kilts than anything resembling a kaftan, I love to look at cultural dress.  I enjoy absorbing the visual richness and wondering about how that form of dress evolved in that society.  I figure if I can&#8217;t claim direct experience or at least understanding, I should not risk looking like I do.  It is all too easy to fail miserably.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking about this with regards to stoles as well.  While the kente cloth stoles in the catalogs and on many colleagues look great, I know I am way too white girl to begin to feel comfortable in them.  </p>
<p>I find this can translate to clerical dress, too.  Some years ago, I noticed a trend in the Guatemalan stoles - many people gave them as gifts because they are pretty and fairly inexpensive for their strong visual impact, as well as having a certain &#8220;Look at my cultural diversity&#8221; factor.  I have at least one such stole - which was a gift from another colleague - but on some gut level, I hesitate to wear it for church.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think any of the potential for wearable assimilation is a hard and fast rule - outside of the very important question of does an item help you look and serve your best.  Gifts should have various degrees of dispensation.</p>
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		<title>By: Aola</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-156</link>
		<dc:creator>Aola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good post. thanks ladies. I guess I have felt the same way but never actually put into words.. like I think an African American woman  looks beautiful in a caftan (?) and turban and love the look, I'm pretty sure I would just look stupid in it. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But, I do love Eddie Bauer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good post. thanks ladies. I guess I have felt the same way but never actually put into words.. like I think an African American woman  looks beautiful in a caftan (?) and turban and love the look, I&#8217;m pretty sure I would just look stupid in it. </p>
<p>But, I do love Eddie Bauer.</p>
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		<title>By: Quotidian Grace</title>
		<link>http://beautytipsforministers.com/2006/05/30/ready-to-wear-cultural-assimilation/#comment-155</link>
		<dc:creator>Quotidian Grace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2006 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love it, love it, love it! Preach on, PB! I just hate seeing the aging lefties in our presbytery sporting their Central American fair trade while trying to peddle the same. It looks stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love it, love it, love it! Preach on, PB! I just hate seeing the aging lefties in our presbytery sporting their Central American fair trade while trying to peddle the same. It looks stupid.</p>
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